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I was just wondering if there was any absolute evidence that wormholes could exist. This interest me and if anyone has any info that I could read into tell me.

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Another question, is how does one find or create one? What is the theory of the wormholes?

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i've only heard of wormholes as being a possibility at black holes.

there isn't really any evidence since it's hard to figure out much from a black hole other than to see the effects it has on everything around it.

so if wormholes do exist as black holes, that would be how you find one, and you wouldn't really be able to create one since they're the remnants of a star that got too big and then collapsed down into almost nothing

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A weird coincedence: Right after I posted this I turned on the TV and relized that Contact was on TNT (or one of those). But besides that, I found a site that kind of explains some theorys. Anyone that is interested in this should check it out.

White Holes and Worm Holes

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thanks for the link -- an interesting read

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I don't think wormholes exist, if you think about it, space is nothingness.. the universe is just bits of matter in a whole lot of nothingness.

I can't wait for when we've colonised Mars, and then later on the Saturnian and Jovian moons of Europa, Ganymede and Callisto.. and the others, this would however come up with some problems with the internet... if you wanted to access a Martian website from Earth, youd prolly have to do www.mars.gov.mars, or if you're in Mars you could just do www.mars.gov.. a bit like not having to dial the area code if you're calling a person with the same area code.

That's an interesting topic for debate - how should Mars be goverened? I reckon a selected elite should be used as the leaders and immigration should be strictly regulated, excluding those with diseases like HIV, people with class A drug convictions, people with history of possession of weapons, people who wear trackie bottoms and hoodies and those deer stalker hats and ask you for cigarettes in badly accented English, people with violent or disorderly criminal records and people deemed to be potentially unstable following psychological analysis.

That counts me out on at least 2 points, but I don't think it matters, as Mars won't be colonised for some centuries.

My views might be a bit right wing, but you don't want a NASA plexi-glass dome turned into a Salford council estate!!!

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Since we are on the topic of blackholes and wormholes, I was wondering if someone could possibly tell me other stuffs.

What is dark matters?

And what is the anti-matters? Are they the same things?

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dark matter and antimatter are different. i have limited knowledge of dark matter, but here's a shot at explaining them:

antimatter are particles that are exactly opposite from matter particles. for example, an electron's anti-matter counterpart is a positron. if a matter particle meets up with it's antimatter counterpart, the two particles will annihilate each other, leaving nothing at all. matter-antimatter pairs form and annihilate each other all the time, and they can do this without violating concentration of energy provided that they don't last very long. this has to do with the heisenberg uncertainty principle, which states that change in energy times change in time equals a constant. therefore, a particle with a given energy (E=mc² can exist for any time short enough such that E times t is less than that constant.

some theories of the origin of the universe say that there was originally zero matter, and that the reason we have matter today is from these matter-antimatter pairs forming near black holes which managed to capture the antimatter such that the matter was unable to annihilate it.

as for dark matter, this refers to matter which we have been unable to observe directly, but can see the effects of. i think the percentage of matter that is dark matter is thought to be high, something like 80%.

hopefully most of that was correct . . . or at least interesting

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Thank you, misterhaan.

I still don't fully understand antimatter (eg. positron), but i did learn something. I though the opposite of electron was proton. It is the first time I heard of positron.

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I think that the concept of the wormhole was really an invention of science fiction, rather than something you're likely to find floating around in "real" space-time. However, if by some strange confluence of events you were to end up with an odd "twist" in space-time (perhaps in the manner of a Klein bottle?) then there's no reason why a certain point in space could not act as a "gateway" to another point of space which one could travel through and be further away from the point at which you started than the sum of the distance which you have travelled.

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wormholes are part imagination, and part solution to known physical equations when given certain exotic conditions. The link that NivadsWorld posted mentions that too i think.

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If you want to learn more about wormholes and other stuff that we don't know exists read "The Universe in a Nutshell" by the almighty Stephen Hawking. Some of the stuff in there is really cool. We have a lot of debates about Hawkingish stuff in Philosophy club.

About the antimatter stuff. There are 2 different particles, as far as I know, antimatter and matter. These are constantly breaking apart and reforming. When they collide they disintegrate. BUT, if they get close to a black hole one of them might get sucked in, allowing the other to escape. There also is some stuff to do with wave theory that I really didn't understand, but Hawking said that you could figure out what went into a black hole and that eventually it will fill up.

They believe they've found a black hole too, because there are certain points in the universe where light is bent, due to some extreme gravitational force, and some of it dissapears. I'll have to research this more though.

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hahahaha, they're all called Dave.

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 Jester


dave's not here.

(link provided since most people probably don't know about this)

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We'll see if worm holes can exist when the research and particle acceleration stuff at CERN is done.

EDIT: uh, here's CERN's website if you don't know what it is. I've never been there but for a few seconds so don't know what kind of information it's provide.website

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Sorry, but what's CERN?

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I don't see what the dave thing had to do with wormholes, but ok. I have heard about CERN before but never really looked into it. Are there any places like this in USA?

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CERN is a massive physics lab in Europe which makes use of a gigantic particle accelerator(and I've heard it's building a bigger one) to research stuff like wormholes. Apparently if you collide particles(protons, electrons, ect.) together at extreme speed they can cause some strange effects.

I think there is, haven't looked it up though. Usually since they're so expencive and such it's easier to just invest in one type of research mechanism in one part of the world than try to build your own. There may be other particle accelerators but CERN is the largest, is growing larger soon, and is probably the most extensive in the researching of worm holes.

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nothing. he just said dave and i thought of that. i'm just trying to disrupt the conversation . . .

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Isnt that what moderators are supposed to catch and delete? See, you are getting me off topic!