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Davinci Code
Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2005-06-29, 11:59pm
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hey i've become addicted to dan brown's books, the symbology and history he writes about has got me hooked, can anybody suggest any similar books or anywhere i can find out more information about symbology?

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-04-27, 03:58pm
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ive hear about this great book about it its called
"The Truth About The DaVinci Code" by Gabe Carlin
here is the link
[MOD EDIT: seemingly bad or unrelated link?]
it looks awesome

» Post edited 2006-04-27, 06:57pm by Terminal.
 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-01, 06:54am
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Remember this book is fiction, It is even placed in fiction in the book stores.This is just another one of Satins tricks to try to turn people away from Christ, Satin is not stupid and he always mixes some truth with his lies so that it sounds more convincing. Although many try to say that the Nag Hammadi texts found in 1945 are older(A.D.245) than New testament writings(Pauls writings date from 40 A.D.) upon research you will easily find this to be a lie. This is just an old battle with a new face.
The DaVinci code promotes the idea that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene, yet in the gnostic codes they themselves never even said this, so this is a lie about a lie.Before you allow Satin to take you to the pits of hell I encourage you to do some real study on this subject and ask the spirit of God to lead you.
Galatians 1:7-11But there be some that trouble you, and would prevert the Gospel of Christ. But though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we hae preached unto you, let him be accursed.(Paul found this so important that he said it twice in a row, go read your bible). Plus I find it hard to believe that God would have let this book(the bible) exsist for so long as his truth if it where not so. I hate Satin and I rebuke him from these pages, in Jesus name.
Peace be with you and God Bless You All

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-01, 08:52am
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 bahhumbug writes...
I find it hard to believe that God would have let this book(the bible) exsist for so long as his truth if it where not so.

This idea of God belongs, itself, in the fiction section of the bookstore or library. Tell us how believing in the Biblical God is any different from believing in Santa Claus?

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-01, 01:32pm
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Because there was eyewitness proof of God, the old testament was perserved beautifully by the Jewish people, and I don't hear anyone saying that Matthew, Peter ,John,or Paul where made up charectors. Plus back in the time of Jesus it was very dangerous to blaspahmy, by doing so meant death, so why would all these people tell a lie that would kill them, only truth is worth dying for. If you want proof then go serf the net with an open mind and God will show you truth.

God Bless You:

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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-01, 01:38pm
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I have seen so much proof of God that I know without a shadow of dought that he is who he is. I have seen many things happen through prayer that only God could of done. Once is a coincidence but several is God. I myself have had Him enter my body and when this happens there is no longer any deniel of him, for your body can hardly handle it, and it never leaves your mind.

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-01, 01:48pm
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Know?

28% of the Bible was prophetic when it was written?

Did you know Scripture contains dozens of specific predictions that came true with 100% accuracy?

More than 300 prophecies were fulfilled by Christ Himself at His first coming.

Although it is a collection of 66 books, written by 40 or more different men over a period of 2,000 years, it is clearly one Book, with perfect unity and consistency throughout?

What amazes me is how far the original manuscripts go back. No other book comes close to going back as far as some manuscripts do from the bible. Within a few years of Christ being on the planet.

What amazes me is how scholars and intellectuals for hundreds of years have tried to disprove it without success. How there is no evidence against it, but so much evidence to support it... And yet people have a hard time believing its authenticity


 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-01, 06:59pm
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 bahhumbug writes...
Because there was eyewitness proof of God, the old testament was perserved beautifully by the Jewish people, and I don't hear anyone saying that Matthew, Peter ,John,or Paul where made up charectors.

The "eyewitness proof of God" relates to a religious experience. Many mad people have experiences just like that, seeing angels, demons, god and the devil. That doesn't mean that angels, demons, god and the devil are "real". Many children experience Santa Claus as real but that doesn't make "him" real.

Actually you're wrong about Matthew and John in that scholars do question whether the Matthew and the John gospels were written by one single author with those names. Peter and Paul are accepted as historical characters because they spread the Christian word and affected people outside and after the Gospel writings. Pontius Pilate is definitely accepted as a real character because there are records of his governership outside the New Testament writings.

There is virtually no evidence for the existence of Jesus of Nazareth outside the NT writings. As a human being, he has even less of a plausible reality as compared to Peter and Paul because we have only writings about him by Christians, no "objective" witnesses from outside the early Christian community.

As for Jesus' divine status, that is only how the NT writers saw him. Today, similar writers would say he was "awesome" or "a genius". They wouldn't need to talk of "God".

Similarly, adults rejoice when the "spirit of Xmas" comes along each year. Unlike children, they don't need to see this spirit as an old guy with a beard.

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 01:16am
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 bahhumbug writes...
Although it is a collection of 66 books, written by 40 or more different men over a period of 2,000 years, it is clearly one Book, with perfect unity and consistency throughout?

I don't think so. 2000 years is an exaggeration. If you are talking about those who contribute to the books or letters within the bible, then tried 1200 years. Or 1500 years, if you include Moses.

If we include Moses as the earliest of the Torah, then you must realise that no one before Moses had ever written anything. There are no mention of any pre-Moses patriarchs writing a single thing.

There are number of Apocrypha and Pseudepigraphica literature, which may have their names on it, but these are clearly written after the Israelites returned from their exiles in Babylon.

But if we only those writings in the bible, and not some external literature, the authorship of books or letters may not be the person you think who wrote them.

For example, it is traditionally believed that David wrote the Psalms. He may have written some of them, but not all the psalms. Only some of the chapters in Isaiah were written by this prophet; perhaps only the 1st 39 chapters were his.

The authors of the 4 gospels have been called to question too.

Herod the Great was actual Judaean king because there are records of him outside of Matthews' gospel. Herod was indeed paranoid, fearing of being displaced by his rivals, including of his own families, whom he had murdered, or had assassinated or executed. Those who wrote about Herod, went into great details of his murderous spree, and yet none of them wrote about him ordering the execution of infants, which the gospel of Matthew spoke of. Such horrid crime would not have gone unnoticed by historians, but we only have Matthew reported this.

» Post edited 2006-05-02, 01:34am by storyteller.

Dreams are stories, but my life is just one bad dream. :P
 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 04:02am
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Even atheist scientist have today come to the conclusion that we where made by something and the big bang theory can't be possible for intellegent life. Yet some people will be stubborn until the end when every knee will bow. A couple years ago you could have convinced me that He isn't so, but since then I have seen miracles. only God could do these things. Plus when he enters your body you become so weak that you can't stand and another language takes over your tongue. If you don't believe me then invite Jesus into your life today and he will show you.
Have you ever been fishing or hunting or just taking in the beauty of the stars at night and felt so grateful that you caught yourself saying thank you. Who where you saying thank you to and you where you grateful to.
I will not argue with non - believers, because what I have is truth and there is nothing to prove with truth, it's only the lies that Satin plants that has to be argued about. I say open your mind and go search for God, after all it can't hurt you and your eternity is at sake.

God Bless You All
You are in my prayers

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 04:04am
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Prove it.

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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 04:44am
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There is proof today by experts that the hand writings are different, proving that the gospels weren't written by one guy.And carbon proves the different time period these ancient writings where written in.
You say prove it. I have already told you that if you reach out and accept Jesus he will prove it just as he did for me, I'm not a young person so my mind had many years to be corrupted by the world, but when his wonderful holy spirit enters you, well let me tell you there is no denying Him.
You want it proved, then I dare you to go on the net with an open mind, a mind that wants to prove there is a God and for everything you find saying that he is not , see how many proofs you find that he is. Don't listen to what one or two men tell you, go and search for yourself. Read the bible and God will show you himself.
Here's the best way to think about being a christian to a non-believer. If there isn't a God what did it hurt to live a good loving life and being remembered as a wonderful person, but if there is a God, thank God I made the right choice and I get to live eternity in a beautiful heaven on earth.

Peace be with you,

p.s. Do you have peace?

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 04:50am
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No, I want you to prove it. With substantiated empirical evidence. Papers, research. Fully referenced if you don't mind. Or maybe just ask god or whoever it is to pop down and say hello to me, he should know where I live.

While you are doing that, I'll reach out and wait for something to happen, ok??

Explain what you mean by peace.

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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 05:18am
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http://www.probe.org/content/view/18/77
Try this web site for one. Peace is an inner feeling that no matter what happens everything will be alright with you.
Look at how sarcastic you are getting, why do you want to get nasty about my belief? Could it be Satin is feeling like he may lose one of his people and has put a mean spirit in you, also a stubborn spirit, for I have already asked you to research for yourself. As for me I never go according to what one person tells me. I dig for myself, and it is so easy with the internet at our finger tips. please read www.probe.org/content/view/18/77
this is some non-biblical proof, plus as I said earlier, during the Jesus time period a person got killed for saying anything that could be considered blasphamy so why would these eye witness writers take a chance at losing thier lives for a lie.
As someone wrote about crazy people, it seems there must have been a world full of these peoople seeing things, whats really funny is they where seeing the same thing.

I love you all
God Bless

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 05:33am
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oh yeah what are you doing in a Da Vinci code forum anyway, if you don't believe Jesus exsisted. The Da Vinci code doesn't say there is no such thing as Jesus, it just shows him in a different way. A Gnostic way. And anyone who wants to study gnostics can find that they where anti-christ types that tried to twist the devinity of Jesus to fit thier pagan ways.
I am still studying the gnostics myself, but what I have read about them I find them kinda satanic, they give me the creeps the way they add lies to truth to make it easier to believe. Oh well that is just my opinion, and I believe we are still allowed our own opinions. I just choose to study all angles before I come to a final conclusion.

God Bless


 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 06:44am
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http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/davinciopportunity.htm

read this for some Da Vinci code insight, also more nt proof

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 07:53am
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You still haven't proved to me that anyone like jesus or god exists. You seem so sure of it, so show me.

I've been waiting here for ages now for jesus, arms open, pointless smile, and nothing. Should I wait for a while longer?

I haven't said a thing in a sarcastic manner, I'm doing what you told me to do.

Let's not even get started on using the internet as a credible research method, eh.

However, I'm not saying that a man, maybe a wise man did not exist, maybe he was wrote about, maybe not. If this wise man was around, I have no doubt in my mind that todays religions are doing nothing more than profiting in both monety and power, on a 'myth', and have been doing for thousands of years.

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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 09:20am
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The bible says that for some even if an angel or Jesus himself was standing in front of him they would not believe. And yes you are sarcastic, you know just as well as I do that you have to believe in Him when you ask him into your life because he doesn't have to prove himself to anyone after all he is our creator. You are right that religion is a profit organization, but what I'm talking about is not a religion but a relationship with JESUS, this you can have without attending a church building, or paying all your money for tithes, this you can have at home by HIS FREE GRACE, just putting your faith in God. I will not respond to you anymore for one reason, because I must follow my fathers advice when he said for me NOT TO CAST MY PEARLS UNTO SWINE. Good luck in your life and God Bless you, may you eventually quit being stubborn and give God a try.
If you don't want to trust all the resources on the net for your study then I suggest you go to the library, but the internet is excellent unless you just can't believe anyones word at all, If this is the case what a dreary life you must live, I hope this is not the case. Did you check out that site I recommended. Somehow I dont think you did. This isn't the only site that say's this stuff, and these aren't even bible things.
Anyway for me to prove what I know, you would have to be around me personally when Gods spirit enters me or when one of my brothers or sisters in Christ have tumors and cancers at one doctors visit and then at the next one they are completely gone and the doctor is left awestruck.( this is after being prayed over).
Jesus said:Blessed are those who believe without seeing, for thiers is the kingdom of heaven. He said this because he knew many would not believe.
Another proof of Jesus is to check out all the prophecy from him and about him and you will see that all of it has come true. Not just some of it but all of it. I know a person that use to be atheist, so him and a group of his atheist friends decided to get together and read the bible for themselves to debunk it, what happened instead is that they all became believers because everything that was written in it has happened.

Goodbye and God Bless You
You are still in my prayers

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 09:49am
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http://www.geocities.com/metacrock2000/Jesus_pages/HistJesus_index2.html

 
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Subject: Re: Davinci Code  ·  Posted: 2006-05-02, 10:00am
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 humbug writes...
you know just as well as I do that you have to believe in Him when you ask him into your life because he doesn't have to prove himself to anyone after all he is our creator


Hang on one god darn minute (giggle), so I have to believe in him first??!! He's on to a bit of a winner here. Will he just not speak to me for a second just to let me know he's there, then he is welcome to enter me in any which way he likes. Can you ask him for me???

You have still to prove that "jesus" in the way you believe, as the son of god exists, and that god exists. The most any of these sites or writings proves is that a man of some sorts existed. Nothing does, or can proves that he had any higher powers, was the son of god, or that god exists.

 humbug writes...
Anyway for me to prove what I know, you would have to be around me personally when Gods spirit enters me or when one of my brothers or sisters in Christ have tumors and cancers at one doctors visit and then at the next one they are completely gone and the doctor is left awestruck.(


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» Post edited 2006-05-02, 10:02am by fez.

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